Who was Mary A Warren in the 1939 register?

This is a small mystery I’ve finally untangled last few days, and I wasn’t initially going to write about it as I haven’t even mentioned the Warren line yet… but there are so many unknowns there, it may take me a while.

In brief – Edward Albert Warren was my children’s 3 times great-grandfather. He was born on 15 December 1865 in Sunderland, son of Isiah (William) Warren and Mary Ann Akehurst, and he was a mariner. Edward Albert married Elizabeth Jane White in 1888 in Sunderland, and they got divorced in 1900 as his wife has a child with another man (she subsequently married him in 1902). I still don’t know what happened to two of their children – their daughters Ruth Elizabeth Mary and Eva, as well as what happened to his wife and her two other daughters – Beatrice Mabel and Violet after 1901.

Their son Leopld Rossine Warren (b.1890) was also a mariner and married Josephine Gallagher in 1914 in Derry. Leopold and Josephine are my children’s great-great-grandparents.

Edward Albert and Elizabeht Jane’s marriage and divorce is a very sad story, and will be a topic of another post…

I know very litte about Edward Albert’s life after 1901 – he is listed as boarderer in 1911 census at St. Mark’s Street, Sunderland, and working as a ship steward. He also appears on number of ship manufests in 1919 and 1920 as a ship stewart on the ship Stanmore.

When 1939 register was released last year I found him living at 3 Trafalgan Square, which was a retirement home for seamen, and he was listed with a mystery woman – Mary A Warren, born 1893. It took me a while to find out who Mary A was! 1939_EdwardAlbertWarren

Looking at her age, she was as old as Edward Albert’s children but I couldn’t find another daughter for him under this name. Plus they were both listed married. She couldn’t have been his daughter-in-law as he only had one son Leopold, and he was already married to Josephine (living in Derry in 1939). Which left the obvious choice of Mary A being his much younger wife.

It took a bit of searching, but it was her obituary in 1954 that provided the clue, and Mary A’s maiden name – Stewart.

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I’m waiting to get the original marriage certificate, but looks like Mary A Stewart and Edward Albert Warren married in 1923 in West Derby, Lancashire – she was 30, he was 58, and they were together until his death in 1941 (she died thirteen years later in 1954).

I’m still not sure why did they not marry in Sunderland as both of them were from there. This is still a part of the puzzle left to be solved (as well as finding out what happened to Edward Albert’s two daughters and the two girls his wife had)

For reference – below is the pedigree chart including Edward Albert Warren:

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The SWEENY family in Derry

Catherine Sweeny (sometimes spelt Sweeney) is my husband’s 3-times great-grandmother. Catherine was born in Derry around 1839, widowed young from her first marriage (no children) and re-married again to Thomas Cooper, a tinsmith, in 1865 in Liverpool. They lived for number of years afterwards in Glasgow, and returned to Derry sometime in the period 1878-1882.

Catherine’s father was Miles Sweeny, engineer, who died in 1864, the year prior to her second marriage.

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I was lucky to find Miles’ death certificate as civil records only started in 1864! Miles died in 1864 from asthma, such an unfortunate cause of death which in those days was obviously not treatable.

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1864, death Miles Sweeny, 55 years old, Granny lane

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Derry City Cemetery provided more clues about Catherine’s mother and siblings. I had requested information about Catherine’s grave, and they sent me a list of ALL people buried there!

Derry City Cemetery, Grave No CA170 – Proprietor JAMES HAGAN THE ROCK

 (1) Mary Hagan, The Rock Died 23/9/1867 – Aged 28yrs Parents: Miles and Anne Sweeney

(2) Joesph Sweeney, Fountain St Died 10/5/1870 Aged 1 day – Parents: Denis and Jane Sweeney

(3) Patrick Sweeney Fountain Street, Died 15/3/1871 Aged 10 days, Parents: Denis and Jane Sweeney

(4) Susan Strain, Creggan St, Died 14/6/1878 – Aged 75 yrs Parents: not listed

(5) Anne Sweeney, 2 Sloans Tce Born Raphoe Died 21/1/1881 – Aged 56yrs Parents: Miles and Anne Sweeney

(6) Miles Cooper 28 Bridge St, Born Glasgow Died 19/12/1882 – Aged 4 yrs Parents Thomas and Catherine Cooper

(7) Catherine Cooper 14 Bridge St Died 21/2/1904 – Aged 61yrs Parents: Miles and Anne Sweeney

(8) MaryAnn Sweeney, 8 Mountjoy St Died 12/10/1913 49yrs Parents: James and Mary McGlinchey

(9) Margaret Kyle, 21 The Rock Died 15/7/1917 2yrs Parents: Robert and Annie Kyle

I haven’t been able to find a birth record for Catherine as she was born too early for a civil record, and the old Catholic baptisms for Derry city don’t cover this particular year (however as we’ll see later it’s possible she was born outside Derry). According the above her mother is Anne.

While there are a number of Sweeny families in Derry, I’ve only found one Miles Sweeeny, who was an engineer, and he was married to Ann Gorman.

The cemetery record above lists few other likely siblings for Catherine.

(1) Mary Hagan, The Rock Died 23/9/1867 – Aged 28yrs Parents: Miles and Anne Sweeney

Mary (abt 1839 – 1867) seems to be Catherine’s sister, married to John Hagan who is the proprietor listed on this grave plot.

(2) and (3) – Joseph and Patrick Sweeny are the young sons of Denis and Jane Sweeny. Denis and Jane were married in 1867, Denis’ father is Miles Sweeny, an engineer.

I have not found how (4) Susan Strain is related to the family yet.

(5) Anne Sweeney, 2 Sloans Tce Born Raphoe Died 21/1/1881 – Aged 56yrs Parents: Miles and Anne Sweeney: I’m not sure if this is a sister or a sister-in-law yet, there seems to be a mistake in one of the records. The original death record states Anne was a widow, and the informant was her son Miles Sweeny. I’m undecided for now.

(6) and (7) are Catherine and her youngest son, who died age 4.

(8) MaryAnn Sweeney is the wife of Miles Sweeny (b. abt 1855) Miles Sweeny and Mary McGlinchy were married in 1882 in Derry city, Miles was an engine driver,  son of Miles Sweeny, factory manager.

Miles and MaryAnn were living in Derry in 1911 and had just moved into the area from Urbalshinny, Donegal couple of years prior. All their children apart from the youngest were born in Donegal. Miles reported he was born in Derry city in 1901 census, and Co.Donegal in 1911 census. I’ve found a baptism for Miles Sweeny 20 May 1852 at St Columb’s, Derry city and his parents were Miles Sweeny and Ann Gorman. Looks like GORMAN is the maiden name of Catherine’s mother!

There are few more children born to Ann Gorman and Miles Sweeny, and baptised in St Columb’s – Brigit (1842), Agnes (1846), Myles (1852), James (1857 – this one is a bit hard to read).

There is also a son Alexander (b abt.1836) who married Elizabeth Doherty in 1867, and marriage certificate lists him as a son of Miles Sweeny, an engine fitter.

I have traced numerous Sweeny families in Derry, and have eliminated some as likely unrelated. There are also many Sweeny families as Donegal who I’m not sure if are related to our Miles Sweeny – was he originally from Derry city,  was he from Donegal, or was he from somewhere else completely different!

I’ve included a diagram, this is still a work in progress and quite likely to be more siblings out there!Sweeny_diagram_Apr2017

PS The last little girl buried in that family plot – (9) Margaret Kyle was the daughter of Annie Sweeny, grand-daughter of Miles Sweeny and great-grand-daugher of Miles Sweeny and Ann Gorman. She died just a month before her 2nd birthday from tuberculous meningitis.

Also, the name Miles and Myles seems to have been used interchangably in the records, and same with Sweeny and Sweeney.

Catherine SWEENY and Thomas COOPER

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SWEENY-COOPER chart – Click on the image for a larger size

Catherine Sweeny and Thomas Cooper are my children’s 3 times great-grandparents. They were married on 12th January 1865 in West Derby, Liverpool in St Patrick’s chapel, Toxteth park.

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St. Patrick’s Chapel, image source: Wikipedia – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_PAtrick%27s_Church,_Liverpool

I’m not sure when and why Thomas and Catherine had moved to Liverpool as both of were born in Derry. According to their marriage certificate Thomas was a 26 year old tinsmith, son of Thomas Cooper, blacksmith. Catherine was a 26 year old widow (Catherine had married Hugh Monaghan in 1860 in Derry) and a daughter of Miles Sweeney, who was an engineer and already diseased. Thomas was a Presbyterian, but they were married in a Catholic church and later on their children were also brought up Catholic.

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1865 Marriage certificate for Catherine (Monaghan) Sweeney and Thomas Cooper

Their first daughter, Elizabeth, was born couple of months later in Liverpool, but by the summer of 1867 the family had moved to Glasgow where their other six children were born – Annie (1867), Catherine (1869), Mary (1871), Thomas Scott (1872), Rebecca (1875) and William Miles (1878).

The father Thomas worked as a tinsmith and the family lived on 42 Alston St in Glasgow. In 1871, according to the census Catherine’s sister Agnes Sweeney was also living with the family and was emplyed as “machine girl”.

The family moved back to Derry sometime between 1878 and 1882 – their youngest son William Miles was born in Glasgow in 1878 and died in Derry in 1882. (They most likely have moved back prior to 1881 as I haven’t been able to find them in the 1881 Scottish census.)

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The family lived on 28 Bridge street for at least a while  (as many other family members!)  – that is the address listed at the death certificate of their son William Miles in 1882, and at the marriage of their daugher Catherine in 1889 to William McCafferty.

In 1901 Thomas and Catherine were living on Harvey Street. Their daughter Catherine and son-in-law William McCafferty were living at the same address, together with two other families.

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1901 census Harvey Street, Derry

Catherine (Sweeny) Cooper died on 21 Feb 1904 at 24 Bridge Street, Derry from pneumonia, age 65.

In 1911 her husband Thomas was living with his daughter Rebecca and his son Thomas and Thomas’ wife Deboragh and their children.

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1911 census, Bridge Street, Derry

Thomas Cooper (Jr) and Deborah Josephine Donaghey had married in 1906 in Derry and had thee children by the time of the census – Thomas (b. 1907), Mary Ann (b. 1908) and John (b.1910), and few more later on – Catherine (b. 1912), James (b.1913) and Henry (b. 1916)

Thomas Cooper (Sr) died in 1914 from cancer – he was 72 years old.

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1914 death Thomas Cooper, 72 years

I’ll write a separate post on the parents and siblings of Thomas Cooper (Sr) and Catherine Sweeny as this one is getting too long.

Derry City Cemetery records reveal Mary Ann Begley’s parents

I’ve recently decided to renew my subscription for rootsireland.ie for a month and within hours got so much information! RootsIreland is a website that offers transcriptions of births, marriages and deaths – both civil and church records, as well as gravestone inscriptions, and more! They provide only transcriptions, no actual images, but it has much better search options than some other sites – and my favourite – street addresses are also indexed! Family members often lived together, so for example I can run a search for an address and see who else was born, married or died there – then follow checking if they are related to the family which I’m researching.

 

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For example, these are the results for the gravestone inscriptions  for “46 Bridge” street  in the period 1895-1905. Some of those names I recognise (Sarah and Ellen are the daughters of Patrick and Mary Ann Kavanagh who died as infants), for others I’m not sure yet if they are related.

Browsing the site I also noticed that they list Plot number for Derry City Cemetery, and I found few family members listed in the same plot (0745). Super excited, I emailed the cemetery to check how can I find out more. (I had since then found out that all graves in Derry City Cemetery seem to be indexed with Plot number 0745 on RootsIreland, but at the time I contacted the cemetery I didn’t know that)

The reply from Dublin City Cemetery was very quick, less than a day, and in their email they included the plot numbers of two separate plots, the names of the plot owners, and a total list of eighteen (18!) people who were buried in those two plots. Some of the names were familiar, others I had no idea who they were.

But the very first name broke through a brick wall!

GRAVE NO MC55 PRORPIETOR CHARLES KAVANAGH – 1 FOYLE ALLEY

Mary Ann o Kane, 46 Bridge St died 1/8/1893 ages 46yrs – Parents: James and Margaret Begley

 

I wasn’t sure how the surname O’Kane relates, but the parents I knew – Begley was the maiden name of Mary Ann Begley who was married to Charles Kavanagh.

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I wasn’t sure how Mary Ann O’Kane is related to my Mary Ann Begley, but they had the same first/middle name and were similar age – maybe one name was misspelled and they were sisters?

The death record for Mary Ann held the key – the informant was P. Kavanagh, her son, also living at 46 Bridge Street.

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I knew Mary Ann’s first husband, Charles, died prior to 1890 as he was listed diseased in their son’s Charles marriage certificate, and looks like she re-married – her second husband was William Kane, shoemaker and they were married in 1875.

I’m still looking for a record of Charles’ death, which I’ve now narrowed down to be sometime between 1864 (birth of last known child) and 1875 (when Mary Ann re-married).

The last really exciting piece of information that first record in the email from the cemetery contained was the names of Mary Ann’s parents – James and Margaret!

I will be working through the rest of the names in those two graves over the next few days, really excited to see what else will come up!

Elizabeth – the 5 times great-grandmother

I wasn’t in a mood to do any proper research tonight, so thought I’d just run a search through the records for a surname and do a browse. Many of the Derry BMD records are digitized on the Irish Genealogy website, but street addresses are not indexed, so sometimes interesting things pop up when you look at the street addresses – family members often lived together.

Well, I found way more than what I exptected – I found the name of my children’s 5 times great-grandmother – it was Elizabeth! She was married to Thomas Cooper, and had a son Thomas and a daughter Annie (their only daughter according to the newspaper announcement for Annie’s marriage); they may have had other sons too who I haven’t found yet. There is at least one other Thomas Cooper in Derry at that time who was a mechanic/engineer (and who I don’t think is related to our family)
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It was the daughter Annie who provided the clue. As I was browsing through all Cooper  BMDs for 1880-1900 I came across a death for Elizabeth Cooper, 70 years old in 1891 who died from bronchitis. The informant was the son-in-law David Norrie – which was a familiar name. I had Annie Cooper married to David Norrie already in the tree!

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Elizabeth must have been Thomas and Annie’s mother, born about 1821 and died on 14th Feb 1891. Unfortunately Derry Journal is not digitized for the first half of 1891, as I would have liked to see where is she buried. Elizabeth is listed as a widow of a smith, which also fits the occupation listed on his son Thomas’ marriage cert in 1865.

I haven’t been able to find the death record for Elizabeth’s husband yet.

The unusual thing about this family line is that the Coopers were Presbyterian (while all other lines so far were Catholic). Their daughter Annie married in a Presbyterian church, their son Thomas married in a Catholic church and all his children were baptised Catholic, but he still listed himself as Presbyterian on the 1901 and 1911 census.

I had suspected Thomas’ wife is probably called Elizabeth since his son’s oldest daughter was Elizabeth, but it’s nice to have a document to prove it. I can update the family tree now – will draw and upload a nicer diagram over the next few days.

Richard McManus’ will (1907, New York)

A lovely cousin, Anne, sent me a document few days ago, and little did I know when I opened it that I won’t be getting much sleep that night and will be re-reading and researching the unexpected contents of it till all hours!

She had found the last will of Richard McManus in 1907 – in Brooklyn! This is a great example why one should check all locations and not get stuck in assumptions. Richard had lived in Boston, and the family story was he followed his wife (c.1884) back to USA from Derry and died shortly after – so I searched Boston back and forth, death records, cemeteries – nothing! In hindsight – Richard’s sister Margaret (McManus) McDade lived in New York, so I should have checked there too… but I didn’t until I got the will!

Richard died in January 1907 in Brooklyn, age 63, and was buried in the Holly Cross cemetery in Brooklyn.

His probate documents (29 Apr 1907, full document available on ancestry) tell the unexpected story of the last 25 years of his life…

His probate lists the names and addresses of all people entitled to any portion of his estate – his wife Catherine and a child “Charles”, name being fictitious, as well as his three children John, Richard and Catherine living at 14 Fulton Street, Londonderry.

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It also goes on explaining:

“… That your petitioner is unable to ascertain whether or not the said deceased left him surviving widow, although your petitioner has made diligent effort to do so.

That your petitioner is informed by Margaret McDade, a sister of deceased, and by Joseph B. Markey, one of the subscribing witnesses to said Will and Codicil and a close friend of deceased before his death,

that Catherine McManus, the wife of deceased, left him about twenty-five years ago while the said deceased was residing in Ireland, in the Kingdom of Great Britain, taking with her a son of said deceased;

that his said wife came to the United States of America, but the deceased had never learned of her whereabouts or those of said son, and has not seen her nor his said son since their separation from him as aforesaid.”

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Richard didn’t know the whereabouts of his wife Catherine for 25 years, and the infant son she took with her must have been Patrick Aloyious McManus, born and baptised in Derry on 7th April 1883

(I’m wondering how would he be baptised and his father not know his name? Was it done in secret, or did Richard think Catherine may have changed his name? And why “Charles” – it is not a name that I’ve seen in the family lines before? And finally – the ship manifest for Catherine and her two children Jane and Patrick from Dec 1884 is probably the wrong one, Patrick indicated on his naturalization papers he arrived on 4th May 1883 – which seems more plausable now, he would have been a month old! I’m yet to find that ship manifest)

I will continue looking into this, and feel I may have to go back and re-write some of the previous stories… I still haven’t fully gotten my head around this new twist.

 

 

The Bradleys in Boston

The steamer Grayhound took its last journey on 6th November 1865 crashing into the rocks at Nova Scotia.

The Disaster to the Greyhound

BOSTON, Wednesday, Nov. 15

The steamer Greyhound, Capt. NICKERSON, from Boston for Charlottetown, struck on Bird Rock ledges, Nova Scotia, on Monday night last, and, filling with water, sunk in eleven fathoms.

The passengers and crew were saved and landed at Beaver Harbor, N.S.

The Greyhound was insured for $100,000 in Boston and New York offices, and was valued at that sum.”

New York Times, November 16, 1865

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(Image source and much more information on the Grayhound at this great blog:  https://sailstrait.wordpress.com/2015/01/27/civil-war-blockade-runner-was-the-first-of-the-boston-boats/)

Few weeks before the Grayhound crashed, Mary Ann Bradley and her three children – Patrick (10), Catherine (8), Ellen (6) and Mary (3) had made the trip from Charlottetown to Boston to build a new life for themselves. Mary and her husband John were both Irish-born living in Scotland, all their children born there. He had likely arrived in Boston ahead of them to look for a job.

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The family lived in Boston in 1870, the father John was a labourer and his son Patrick, who was 17, was a shoemaker.

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1870 census for John and Mary Bradley, and their children, Boston

I had discarded the above family as a wrong one for a long time as they are also listed living together in 1880 census (and one more daughter, Rachel born in 1871) on 5 Foster Street and all children were listed single. I knew Catherine had married Richard McManus in 1873 and was listed living with him in 1880 census together with their two children. She also had a daughter, Catherine, born in Oct 1880. I had put a little note at the daughter’s birth to follow up that there is a child McNulty born the following day at the same address. However, the address of the birth for baby Catherine was different to where her parents lived according to the 1880 census. I had assumed the family had moved between the census date in April and the birth in October.

The address where her daughter was born was 5 Foster Street, and I didn’t spot it’s the same as above until much later!

I did, however, decide to follow up on that other child McNulty that was born in the same house a day later, especially since there were two boarders listed living with the family – Neil McNulty (23, single) and Frank Sullivan (21, single). The little boy was Frank McNulty and his mother was Ellen. A quick search revealed a marriage record between Neil McNulty and Ellen Bradly on 25th Dec 1879 – Ellen’s parents were John and Mary Bradley!

Following on the other boarder revealed a second marriage on the same day between Francis J Sullivan and Mary A Bradley. The two boarders were  the sons-in-law, and the enumerator had obviously made a mistake. Two of the sisters got married together on Christmas day 1879, and then the following year one of them and the other sister Catherine had a baby a day apart!

The 1900 census was equally confusing. John Bradley was enumerated once living with his wife Mary and their grandson Patrick McManus at 280 Marginal Street, and a second time with his daughter and son-in-law Francis and Mary A Sullivan at 633 Bennington Street.

The 1910 census was really unexpected – John Bradley was living at 98 Cowper Street with William P. and Catherine Reid. His youngest daughter Rachel who had married Phillip J Molloy was living next door at 99 Cowper street with their 8 children. So this was the correct family! But who were the Reid family?

I’ve come across (and until now had put ait side before as a coincidental name match) a marriage record for Catherine McManus and William Reid on 25 Jan 1897, Catherine parents were John and Mary Bradley. Catherine had remarried which explains why I couldn’t find a death certificate for her around 1895.

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I haven’t found anything more on any of the sisters or Patrick, apart from Rachel but I have found the death notices for both John and Mary Bradley – Mary died 1909, and her husband John – in 1913.

The death certificate for Mary was also a surprise – her parents are listed as Owen Keenan and Ellen Mullen, not names I’ve seen before in the family tree. I haven’t been able to find any death record for John Bradley despite manually going through the record images.

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There are still many gaps, and many people to follow up on. I’m not sure why Mary and John were buried in Malden, and the church mentioned in the newspaper “The Church of The Star of the Sea” is also quite out of the way. I’m not sure why Catherine is listed as having no children in 1900 census, and what happened to her and William after 1900. There is no evidence of her going back to Derry where the rest of her children were, so maybe she had fallen on hard times – I can’t even imagine the pain of having  three of your children grow up in a different country. I haven’t been able to trace her other siblings either after 1910, with the exception of her youngest sister Rachel.

There is a DNA match  between a McManus descentents and  Rachel’s which prompted me to revisit all the documents on the Bradley line last week, and that’s when all this information started unravelling. So that further strenghtens the case that this is indeed Catherine (Bradly) McManus’ family.

There are still so many gaps to fill in, and probably so many stories to be told.